Now Showing: 2013 Tax Distress

Using public data on the Wayne County Tax Portal, LOVELAND has assembled a map of the property tax status of every property in Detroit. The map presents in a clear and accessible form the scale of Detroit's property tax deficit along with helpful payment resources.

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2849 Wabash:

Pablo@lansing.com:

Did this property get withdrawn?

September 14, 2013
Mr N:

Did anybody ever buy this in auction?

April 6, 2014
Jerry Paffendorf:

according to the auction records we could see, the property was purchased for $10,400 along with these other properties: http://whydontweownthis.com/2013/winner/7091

April 15, 2014

Detroit:

Delphia Simmons:

Looks pretty good on my block :-)

January 23, 2013
Jerry Paffendorf:

the wdwot team is meeting with wayne county deputy treasurer david szymanski tomorrow morning to talk about improvements to the tax foreclosure system and what we can be doing with wdwot. anything you want us to ask or try to make happen, let me know!

January 28, 2013
OlMucky:

If you, a friend, or a neighbor are at risk of foreclosure, remember that there a number of resources and options available to you -- and that the sooner you act, the better.

Show Cause hearings -- an opportunity to show why a home should not be foreclosed on -- started today. They continue...

Any person with an interest in the property
may appear in person or through an agent to
show cause why title to the forfeited property
should not vest absolutely in the Wayne
County Treasurer.

City of Detroit

Wards 1-11—Jan. 30, 2013 at 9:00 a.m.

Wards 12-15—Jan. 30, 2013 at 1:30 p.m.

Wards 16-17—Jan. 31, 2013 at 9:00 a.m.

Wards 18-21 — Jan. 31, 2013 at 1:30 p.m. even addresses; Feb. 1, 2013 at 9:00 a.m. odd addresses

Ward 22 — Feb. 1, 2013 at 1:30 p.m. Street names beginning A-G Feb. 4, 2013 at 9:00 a.m. Street names
beginning H-Q Feb. 4, 2013 at 1:30 p.m. Street names
beginning R-Z

Wayne County outside Detroit — Feb. 5, 2013 at 9:00 a.m. parcels beginning 30-49; Feb. 5, 2013 at 1:30 p.m. parcels
beginning 50-83

January 30, 2013
OlMucky:
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You can also connect with foreclosure prevention resources via the property pages on the Tax Distress Map.

-Alex

January 30, 2013
OlMucky:

I spent yesterday afternoon at the American Serbian Memorial Hall, for Black Family Development Inc's community luncheon. Got to speak to about 200 people about Why Don't We Own This? and foreclosure prevention resources.

The more events like these we see, the clearer it is that information on Detroit property is needed, wanted, and can make a huge difference when it's easy to access and understand.

Talked to one area resident at the end of the event who commented that the number we have on Why Don't We Own This? showing the total amount of unpaid property taxes in the city ($450 million) is "fictitious." Told him I couldn't agree more -- a huge chunk of that money is gone and not coming back. People who owned some of that property have moved on, and the properties will never recoup expenses at auction.

But there are simple steps we can take to get information into the hands of neighborhood organizations, block clubs, and other entities across the city that will help keep people in their houses, and even return some taxes to the city.

-Alex

February 17, 2013
greg crawford:

Reclaiming Vacant Properties Conference // September // Philadelphia

likely an interesting opportunity. anyone interested in joining me?

February 25, 2013
A'MRON:

This note is for eloismoore their is a grant writting seminar sat in detroit maybe you guys can get together and rise up 199.00 send the smartest person in the group and get the class her is the number 313 850 7479 5461 brush st 9-5 sat

Hi Sandra
do you want to sale the building if so please respond

March 6, 2013
John Miller:

Will you be adding Highland Park data at some point? (Probably a Hamtramck question too but my primary interest is in HP) Great info here including all the tools to help people get out of this mess. Keep up the good work!

March 8, 2013
iain:

Has anyone out there worked out who 'TAXPAYER' is?

March 12, 2013
Jerry Paffendorf:

@iain "Has anyone out there worked out who 'TAXPAYER' is?"

ha, that's a great question. not entirely sure, and i wonder if paying for the individual property lookup with the wayne county register of deeds would show more: http://www.waynecountylandrecords.com/ .

couple related thoughts, i've also heard that it's possible to write in "taxpayer" instead of a proper name when filing with the city, and apparently in michigan if you buy a property from someone, sign the contract, the whole thing, there's no time limit on when you have to file the new deed by.

any property pros with insight into the existence of 'TAXPAYER' please enlighten the class!

March 12, 2013
Robert Manikowski:

Is it me or does the map above not work? I tried zooming in with no luck.. I just get the constant loading symbol.

March 18, 2013
Jerry Paffendorf:

@Robert Manikowski, sorry about that! the map's working for most people but we've heard from a few others with the spinning wheel and are trying to isolate and squash the bug. would you mind sending me an email at jerry@makeloveland.com with what browser and kind of computer you're using? thanks for that, hopefully we can use that info to get you going.

March 18, 2013
Lonnell:

when investigating vacant land owned by CITY OF DETROIT-P&DD what is the best way or is there an opportunity to acquire those properties and if so what would be the best route

April 3, 2013
stacy :

I am wondering about unfunded parks. Will they be put up for sale? How would one go about purchasing one? There are several in my area. Thanks! -Stacy

April 10, 2013
roger:

Does anyone know if we can buy properties that have been foreclosed on, prior to the September auction?

April 11, 2013
OlMucky:

Roger, not through any official channels that I know of (i.e. going to the Treasurer's office and making an offer). What you might be able to do is reach an agreement with the foreclosed owner to put the property on a payment plan, make a payment, and purchase the property once it's redeemed from foreclosure. But that could be complicated and require some lawyerly assistance.

April 11, 2013
roger:

Is there a way to find out who the owner of a certain vacant property is if I know the address and the parcel number, without physically going to the city? Is there a website?

April 16, 2013
Candice:

Question....where do you get your information from? How do you know which houses will be foreclosed on for sure?

April 23, 2013
OlMucky:

Hi Candice, This is Alex from the Loveland team. Our information comes from a variety of sources: For example, ownership information comes via the Detroit city assessor; foreclosure data comes via the office of the Wayne County Treasurer.

If you are looking at the "2013 Foreclosure Risk" data layer, that information all comes from the Wayne County Treasurer -- it is accurate as of about two weeks ago.

It's important to understand two things about the 2013 Foreclosure data:

1.) All properties that appear as "Foreclosed" on the 2013 Foreclosure Risk map were foreclosed on April 1st, 2013, and are now owned by the Wayne County Treasury.

2.) All foreclosed properties can still be redeemed, and prevented from moving to the foreclosure auction, right up until the first round of the auction begins in September.

If we can help further, just let us know.

April 23, 2013
Joanna Thomson:

What if the lien has been assigned over and over and is now in the hands of an out of state collection agency as of 8 years ago. But that lein is still on record at the court house.

April 26, 2013
Jenn Bisson:

I heard about this through Rabbit Island - As a Canadian, how tricky is it to get a lot at min. auction? Is it a paperwork nightmare?

May 28, 2013
Mike couch:

Is there anyway to have a view created that removes the Redeemed properties and only shows the Foreclosed or Foreclosed/Conditional in one view?

June 1, 2013
Todd Cliff:

I don't currently live in Detroit, but am from the area originally. Is there a way for me to purchase any of these properties?

June 3, 2013
stb11:

There are a few homes in Indian Village and the general area that are foreclosed. With that being said, they look like they are occupied by the current owners. Hypothetically, if one was to buy it through the first round, what does one do with current owners? You can't just walk in and say get out.

June 6, 2013
Peggy Barrette:

11359 Marlowe, Detroit found this property while surfing web. My grandparents, John and Mildred Long, built that house.so many nice memories, it sure does not look anything like it did back in the day. They were my mothers parents, mom still living, 82 yrs.

June 26, 2013
Afo :

Does anyone know when the list will come out from the city for the 1st auction. Thanks brian

July 8, 2013
JFK:

I totally stumbled on to your website, I am an ex-Detroiter who still loves the city. I don't understand something vital about the process of tax foreclosures. Wayne County ends up selling the property for essentially the back taxes owed. What about the mortgage lender? Please someone inform me about where the bank is in the process at the time of the tax foreclosure sale!
Thanks

July 26, 2013
Alicia Secord:

As far as I know, most mortgage lenders require owners to pay into escrow for tax and insurance payments. It's after the mortgage is paid or where the property was bought outright that the property owner has to arrange those payments. Theoretically, properties that go up for tax auctions shouldn't have mortgage leins.

August 30, 2013
Dan:

The foreclosure process, by law, extinguishes all liens on a property (besides a select few government liens). It's possible (and highly likely) that a bank either owned a foreclosed property or had a mortgage on the property but 'walked away'.

September 3, 2013
JFK:

I totally stumbled on to your website, I am an ex-Detroiter who still loves the city. I don't understand something vital about the process of tax foreclosures. Wayne County ends up selling the property for essentially the back taxes owed. What about the mortgage lender? Please someone inform me about where the bank is in the process at the time of the tax foreclosure sale!
Thanks

July 26, 2013
Jessica DePetro:

Hague St. in 48202 zip code. Thoughts on the area?

July 26, 2013
Kevin Shelton:

Quick question: Why do some properties appear as 'Foreclosed' on the 'Tax Distressed' data layer but do not appear in the '2013 Foreclosure Risk' data layer?? Does this have to do with when they were foreclosed? Will the Foreclosed properties from the tax distressed layer be on the 2013 public auction?? Can they still be 'redeemed' from going to auction??

July 29, 2013
janice:

When will the 2013 list of properties to be auctioned be posted?

August 12, 2013
Sean of Detroit:

Detroit is coming back! Cities are coming back!

But, not all cities are coming back, and not all areas of Detroit will come back. While past growth may have been fun, future growth needs to be about an urban built environment in central locations. My thought is that the core of Detroit, everything within the Grand Boulevard Loop, will come back.

-Blog: http://ruinsofamerica.blogspot.com/

August 13, 2013
Darin McLeskey:

Every hear of Detroit Future City? Yeah, maybe you should take a look at that

August 31, 2013
del palmer:

Hi, I was wondering what the story on 17225 Pontchartrain is . I see that it is on the foreclosure list and it is listed as a rental management company office . seems kinda funny that a rental company would let their place go.. Any ideas? thanks, Del

August 18, 2013
del palmer:

17225 Pontchartrain.. do you think this will go to auction ?

August 22, 2013
Cliff:

Hazenpig, thanks for information.

Luckily, I am very familiar with historic district requirements. I renovated neglected houses in other cities before and would like to do everything by the book.

The tax bill doesn't bother me. My plan would be to make repairs over a several year period with plans to move in at some point.

If you have any recommendations for architects with experience navigating the process, I would appreciate the referrals.

August 22, 2013
citibankmanhattan:

@hazenping
wow man your comments are basically spam at this point.

August 27, 2013
Jerry Paffendorf:

@citibankmanhattan, i like that @hazenping posts as much as he does. any spammage is our fault at wdwot for not having better conversation streams. any suggestions for improving how that works?

August 27, 2013
Sean:

@citibank...Wow. I was reading some of your comments from last year below. Dude, you read like a gregarious libertarian offering self testimony to your empathy for the common man while patronizingly throwing in a tip here and there. I would focus on sharing information on properties you don't want yourself and spare us all the disingenuous bullshit.

August 28, 2013
hazenping:

Two suggestions: auto-collapse overlong comments , making them click-expandable and reverse the chronology so the most recent comments appear first. it's strange that a new comment on any parcel kicks up the oldest comment to a prominent position on the front page feed. alternately the older comments could be reduced to the first few words (expandable if desired) while the new comment or reply appears in its entirety. easier said than done, I know.

anyway, keep up the great work Loveland team!

(also, is there any way to turn the "buildings" layer back on in the 2013 maps? that was useful, if not completely reliable).

August 28, 2013
Brad Jensen:

If I may offer a (hopefully) constructive suggestion - I think it is very useful for Hazenping to identify the historic properties, but perhaps we could have a separate FAQs on historic properties and then just a "WARNING, this is a historic property, please see [link] for more info." It is a bit annoying to see the same rather long comment over and over again.

August 31, 2013
hazenping:

I think that Jerry & team are probably cooking up a new commenting protocol, if not this year maybe next year. I did not realize that all previous comments for a property get bumped in *full* to the top of the feed if any new comments are added...Oof. Brad's idea is sound.

September 1, 2013
taxphotos:

the photos on google images and here are wildly out of date . looked at 1000+ "structures" since the list came out. more than 10% of parcels listed as structures are either vacant land now or fire damaged beyond repair . Furthermore many more are in much worse shape than the photos . every year people get burned by bidding off google images as a reference and end up paying thousands for worthless vacant land or worse , structures that are burned and need to be demolished at your own expense . I can make inspections and take accurate photos for any out of town investors . email me . taxphotos@yahoo.com

August 28, 2013
treasuresofdetroit:

My advice to out of town investors is to go to Detroit and check out the property before bidding. It's just a bad idea to bid sight unseen. Photographs (while useful) cannot take the place of a physical visit. There are tons of structural problems that cannot always be seen and examined unless you get close up to the property and look around. Sometimes it is possible for a property to look relatively decent in a photograph even if there are significant structural problems.

August 30, 2013
Bill Cheek:

CAVEAT EMPTOR, prospective purchasers! Nothing can be substituted for a site visit and a good look at the neighborhood. Just buying something because it looks cheap with the hope you can flip it for more money (the classic Detroit slumvestor model) is no substitute for having a plan and being a responsible purchaser. Many good houses and buildings can be found in good neighborhoods, and would encourage investors to think and look before you leap. The post auction FAIL stories about somebody paying $20k for a vacant lot that formerly contained a building always keep Detroiters chuckling.

September 3, 2013
Brad Jensen:

I am confused. For the second round, you say that the properties will start at $500. The banner at the top of this page says $2000 and then, if I go to the Treasurer's office's listings, it still shows the same prices from round one as the minimum bid. What is correct?

August 30, 2013
Jerry Paffendorf:

the treasurer's office sent us that banner to use for round 1 when the opening bids are the cost of the back taxes owed. our understanding is that during round 2 the opening bid is indeed $500.

August 30, 2013
hazenping:

The $2000 number appears to refer to the lowest minimum back-tax bids for a select few *first* round properties (vacant lots). First round mins go up from there, with most in the $7K to $10K range.

The Treasurer's current numbers are correct, as we haven't even started the first round yet. They won't be releasing any second round lists or minimums until well after the first round is done. Check in about a month.

August 30, 2013
Mike:

Can anyone tell me what type of homes sold in the first round at the 2012 Wayne County Auction? I plan on moving to Detroit after being away for many years and would like to buy a house for owner occupancy, but with the 1000's of homes going to auction, I'm trying to plan ahead and determine which houses I should watch, actually view in person etc. i.e. do the expensive homes in nice neighborhoods typically sell in the first round, and if so, is there a lot competition on the bidding? Do the expensive homes in nice neighborhoods that have a high starting price often make it to round 2? Any type of advice would be greatly appreciated!

August 31, 2013
hazenping:

all the information you desire is found right here on this site, see the Maps tab above, 2012 Tax Auction. careful study is rewarded.

speaking *very* generally, most good houses with first round mins over $10K seem to make it to the second round, unless someone has fallen in love with them. there are obviously exceptions.

on the other hand, many of those same nice houses end up going for *more* than their first round minimums in the second round, as people get engaged in bidding wars during the last few minutes. There is far more competition in round 2, round 1 is a snooze-fest by comparison. Study the data and, most importantly, have back-ups.

Don't fall in love, visit the property in person and avoid occupied houses...that's all i got.

August 31, 2013
citibankmanhattan:

The easy answer is that nice homes in nice areas that have first round bids that are less than or close to market value and have yearly taxes that are reasonable get bid on in the first round . Most homes that do not meet these qualifications will likely make it to the second round . Many times homes that make it to round 2 end up going for more than money than they would have been in round 1 .

September 1, 2013
del palmer:

what kind of place is this?

August 31, 2013
Sean:

Many times the google images are of the side of a house, from the back, from an alley and, about 10% of the time, not of the address at all. Count the lot from the closest street, look at it in satellite view, then punch the address into street view. But remember: Never bid on a house you have not seen in person.

September 2, 2013
Sean:

>People! Do yourselves a favor and wait to bid, or enter proxy bids, until the last day of the auctions. You will give your favorite properties a chance to scoot under the radar of out of town investors and increase your chances of coming in under budget.<

September 5, 2013
Sean:

Why am I being logged off every time I delete an item in my collections? I appreciate security, but that much is not desired.

September 5, 2013
Jerry Paffendorf:

hmm... not sure, i'll send that note to larry.

September 5, 2013
James Agee:

Hello... I'm trying to get in touch with the owner of 19774 prevost... this property sits across from Bow Elementary.... it is and desperate need of being boarded up and the weeds cuts... any help that you can give me.. will be greatly appreciated.. my name is James Agee 313 820 1385... thank you...l

September 6, 2013
Jerold Graham:

I wanted to know in the bid process I see I can only bid on one property with my deposit of $535. If I am outbid on the property or someone else win's does that allow me to bid on another property?

September 6, 2013
Jerry Paffendorf:

hi jerold! yes, i believe that's the way they're system is supposed to work. ps we moderate comments so that's why yours took a minute to come through. we're fast about it, though

September 6, 2013
Phil:

last year that was my experience. You can only bid on one property with the 535 deposit. If you win that bid, you are legally bound to that sale. If someone out bids you, you are then free to bid on something else.

September 11, 2013
DVS:

I drove by to check out a commercial building listed in the 2013 foreclosure auction and noticed people inside using the space (possibly as a workshop). With the building foreclosed and in auction, should anyone be in there? I wouldn't want someone gutting it before the auction ends.

September 6, 2013
Wendel Rainbowusagroup:

Last year I saw the same thing, But there are 2 things that now goes through my mind, Thats the owner is buying back, or to your concerns of gutting, Last year I watched a property get guttered directly across the road on Conant, the property had been tight for years, Its like they go through the List and strip them. It was going to be my new offices, but not a chance now. So disappointing. This year I am still watching Conant to buy, Just hope they or who ever stays out. Good luck

September 12, 2013
Pammi:

I would like info on 2012 auction

September 7, 2013
Jerry Paffendorf:

hi, pamela, try starting here: http://whydontweownthis.com/2012/top . you can also see a map of 2012 properties using the data layers button above the map

September 8, 2013
Pammi:

Thanks for the info. Question when multi family homes are auctioned and only one address is listed does this mean winners only purchase the half (address) listed or are they entitled to the entire dwelling??

September 8, 2013
Brad Jensen:

After switching back and forth from the Treasurer's site to this one I notice how basically unusable the Treasurer's site is and how nice this one is. Who has the larger IT budget? Jerry Pfaffendorf for Wayne County Treasurer!

September 8, 2013
Jerry Paffendorf:

ha, thanks, brad! let me just retarget that comment towards the whole Loveland team (there are 5 of us over here at the moment -- larry, mary, alex, mike, and me). we appreciate it!

September 8, 2013
Brad Jensen:

Jerry, Larry, Mary, Alex, and Mike for Wayne County Treasurer(s)! :)

September 9, 2013
Brad Jensen:

But seriously, I have been very disappointed with the Wayne County Treasurer's office and how they conduct this auction. They have made improvements but it has been glacial in its progress. They continue to sell properties that should not be sold (land in Plymouth that was part of an overpass project, for example) Did anyone notice that the current auction contains properties that will be part of the new International Trade Crossing plaza? That the State of Michigan will have to buy back from the speculators who buy them?

September 9, 2013
Brad Jensen:

Never mind. I checked again. The bridge area properties have been removed. Someone IS paying attention!

September 9, 2013
DetroitMichael:

Come on Brad, that should not be Wayne County Treasurer's responsibility. Not even the city of Detroit. If anything, it should be MDOT or USDOT as they will likely be the ones acquiring and using the land. This is a problem of scale. How in the hell is a county treasurer supposed to do due diligence on 20,536 properties at risk of tax foreclosure in one year AND follow through on all of their other responsibilities? Do you realize how complex the process is to actually foreclose on a property? There are properties with unpaid taxes that go back much further than just the 3 years the law allows before foreclosure can take place yet aren't on the auction.

September 9, 2013
Brad Jensen:

So now, after round one of Wayne County's auction, would you like to reiterate how they are doing such a good job? I realize that they have a complex job, but the Treasurer ran and was elected to do this job, not drafted.

October 15, 2013
Pammi:

I would like info on multi family dwellings when only one unit is listed to be auctioned if purchased do the winner get the entire dwelling??

September 8, 2013
Rick:

Sorry for what may be a remedial question, but is there a way to see property detail on this map? Specifically, I am looking for commercial properties that are up for auction.

September 10, 2013
Bill Frank:

this map pretty much reflects the present composition of the city and to think, they paid money for this visionary document!

September 10, 2013
Bill Frank:

439 east congress...... two parcel id numbers likely reflect one for the real estate and the other shown as numerals following a period for personal property tax which is levied on equipment, etc...

September 11, 2013
Bill Frank:

above comment wasnt in answer to ricks question but a comment on the 50 year master plan from city!

September 22, 2013
Daniel Schneider:

Can you search property types?

September 11, 2013
Ricky Merrefield:

Are there any good resources on what the procedure is AFTER winning an auction? I'm looking for things such as what to do if the property is occupied by the former owner or a renter, and how to convert the Quit Claim deed to a Warranty Deed, and any other general thoughts/tips on owning a tax foreclosure.

September 13, 2013
Bill Frank:

439 East Congress: Spoke to nefews of the Francis's, thier closest relatives. They confirm having met with city officials, paying 2010 taxes. They wern't aware property listed on treasurer's sale roster and the will have it withdrawn and or any sale cancelled!

September 13, 2013
Joseph Ziolkowski:

Does anyone know how we go about discovering what other liens may be tied to a certain property. the wording from the auction rules has me a bit concerned that on top of the structural surprises we may encounter there may also be some financial surprises tied to these properties. See Below Wording:
The property is subject to any liens, easements, building or use restrictions,
governmental interests, or special assessments not extinguished pursuant to
MCL 211.78k, or other applicable law,

Thanks-
Joe

September 20, 2013
Ricky Merrefield:

According to the MI website, MCL 211.78k Section 5c states that all liens are extinguished except "future installments of special assessments and liens recorded by this state or the foreclosing governmental unit pursuant to the natural resources and environmental protection act, 1994 PA 451, MCL 324.101 to 324.90106."

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(h2qlumnlknpqqq554krbeb45))/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectName=mcl-211-78k

You can do a title search that should turn up all liens, but not positive how to do that. I'm sure some helpful people here could point you to the right place.

September 21, 2013
Bill Frank:

given enough advance planning one could order a title search from titile co. but that costs $200.. safe to assume all property baught will require a suit to quiet title though and that usually runs about $1,500.

September 22, 2013
SF Mark:

Question: if I didn't register for the first round of the auction, will there be another chance to register for the second round?

September 21, 2013
hazenping:

Yes. Round 2 has a separate registration.

September 21, 2013
Bill Frank:

If you have selected property to bid on call me, I'm a real estate broker who will is registered as a multiple bidder, I will bid for you for a fee. 313/424-9114

September 22, 2013
kelsey:

I've been eyeing this one building for about a year now. Saw it was on the foreclosure list, got excited and registered to bid. Found out a few days later, it was withdrawn. Very upsetting. Looks like the building hasn't been used in a few years and it looked like someone took their time and boarded it up nicely. I went back past the building a few weeks ago and it looks like someone finally go into it. Is there any way I could get information on this building and see who owns it or is it still too early to tell? I wanted to save this building before it gets any worse.

September 23, 2013
Bill Cheek:

Time to check out the leader board!

Bidder 7091 has just purchased every auction property in North Corktown (including several expensive vacant lots), and hit several other areas hard. Has Bill Gates finally discovered Detroit? Is Andreas Apostolopoulos planning massively distributed underground popup retail connected by a series of tunnels throughout the city? Most important: will the funds actually arrive by 4pm Tuesday?

How will the first great auction mystery of 2013 end?!

September 23, 2013
Jon Zemke:

I saw that number was quite active. I am wondering what's going on with it? Also wondering if anybody knows who is behind 8242, which I think purchased a number of Boston-Edison properties and the Woodbridge property I wanted?

September 23, 2013
Jon Zemke:

I saw that number was quite active. I am wondering what's going on with it? Also wondering if anybody knows who is behind 8242, which I think purchased a number of Boston-Edison properties and the Woodbridge property I wanted?

September 23, 2013
kelsey:

So what exactly happens after the first round? Do all the properties that didn't sell go up again for $500? I noticed that you can contact the city if interested in buying the property (as shown on all the properties that didn't sell). Now do those properties sell for the back taxes if you go through them or how does the prices work?

September 24, 2013
Jerry Paffendorf:

yep, everything that did not sell will go up in round 2 of the auction with an opening bid of $500.

September 26, 2013
hometowngyro:

Looking for a cheaper commercial space / smaller warehouse in mexicantown / southwest. Please let me know if you have something you want to sell. Cash deal.

September 24, 2013
Eastside79:

When does registration start for round 2??? Anybody know?

September 24, 2013
Ricky Merrefield:

I believe registration opens September 30. Not sure what the first day of bidding is.

September 24, 2013
Rita:

According to the auction website you when sign in, it says bidding starts 10/8. My question is, bidding close on 10/25 which is a Friday. You have to pay all of the remaining balance by the following business day. As far as I know, the county office isn't open on the weekend. How can you pay the remaining balance? If I'm wrong or if anyone has some additional information please let me know.....thanks.

September 26, 2013
hazenping:

A "business day" refers to a day when an office is open for business. The "following business day" after Friday is Monday. Glad to help.

September 27, 2013
Rita:

Thanks hazenping, I know it seem like such a simple question but with so much on the line I have to ask even the simplest of questions...thanks for the clarity.

September 27, 2013
hometowngyro:

If the winning bidder does not pay, will the second place person be notified to purchase? how? Is it possible that some of these will trickle down to the 2nd round?

thank you!

September 24, 2013
MsRealEstateSale:

If the winning bidder doesn't pay then they call the next highest bidder until someone accept the parcel if they accept the bid then it will end up in October's Auction. MsRealEstateSale

September 26, 2013
hometowngyro:

Thank you!

September 27, 2013
DrewPhilp:

Does anyone know why a property might be "Withdrawn" from the auction? I wanted to purchase the abandoned and dangerous house next to mine, which is owned by a holding company and had been abandoned for years, and thought I might have my chance at this auction. Any Ideas? did the holding company pay the taxes? Is there any recourse?

September 25, 2013
MsRealEstateSale:

Well, The bidding for September 2013 is over and I must say I HATED the new bidding system. Realauction (worst auction) system is a major FAIL!!!! I was bidding on a mayor parcel and the system timed out. I couldn't bid, I couldn't sign in and I was left doing NOTHING. A few minutes later I get a technical error message. I call for support and was told "Oh Well So Sad too BAD." I was prepared to spend several $100,000 dollars but thanks to Realauction (worst auction) I have money in the bank and I don't have my parcels. I hope they get it together before October because if they don't the county is going to lose major money.

September 26, 2013
Alberto:

Jasmine, you are not kidding about Real Auction - what a disaster. Email D Szymanski at the treasurer's office. They are planning a 'do-over' on all parcels they receive complaints on next week. But after this bad taste Real Auction left in our mouth, I am hesitant. I demanded the county cancel out my winning bids and refund me my money. Now that our bids have been revealed, a do-over only serves the county and Real Auction.

September 27, 2013
hazenping:

does anyone know why WCT did not renew the auction contract with Bid4Assets? I thought their user interface during the 2011 and 2012 auctions was elegant and robust, far superior to this buggy, complicated garbage from RealAuction.

September 27, 2013
SMID2002:

IT IS ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE THAT THEY ARE LISTING NAMES INSTEAD OF USER IDS! THAT IS UNSAFE AND HAS TO BE A VIOLATION!

September 27, 2013
Jerry Paffendorf:

why?

September 27, 2013
Ricky Merrefield:

Property ownership is public domain. You can search the county tax site to see who owns any property. This information has always been publicly available.

September 27, 2013
Time To Market:

We bought 7 properties but have money for 5 only. How do we let go 2 but save 5. Can anyone suggest a strategy?

September 27, 2013
hazenping:

i sincerely hope you're joking/trolling. if not, good luck with setting up your payment plans or hiring a good lawyer. a winning bid is a legal contract!

in the future, an outstanding strategy would be to "buy only what you can afford to pay for". free advice!

September 27, 2013
Brad Jensen:

Dear Wayne County September Auction Bidder,

We do appreciate your willingness to participate in the September auction of tax foreclosed properties here in Wayne County. Your activity helps us to collect delinquent taxes so that we might provide essential government services. Your involvement helps to stabilize our communities that have had significant difficulties dealing with the recession that has plagued southeastern Michigan for years now. Thank you for your interest.

It has come to our attention that there were problems with bidding with our auction hosted by our vendor Real Auction. We have attempted to address complaints as they arose. Thursday commencing at 11am EDT numerous problems arose as a result of the enormous traffic generated. While we appreciate the increased interest in our auction process we apologize for the inconvenience and frustration bidders faced. We need to correct this situation as best we can; we have heard complaints and want to address those appropriately.

We are reaching out to all September auction qualified bidders (registered and paid deposit) to determine the extent of the problem and craft an appropriate solution. We had people who tried to place bids but were unable to do so due to slow systems. In order to be fair we do need to allow those bidders to participate. Unfortunately due to technical difficulties some were unable to do so.

Please assist us in addressing this by sending an email to wctauction@waynecounty.com and in the email specify what parcel ID and/or auction ID that closed after 11am on Thursday presented you with problems. We must receive your email by 11am Monday, September 30 Detroit time (EDT) . Please list the parcel ID or IDs at the top of your email and then give a narrative of the issue you faced. Please keep your comments efficient and direct.

We anticipate having a resolution to the issue crafted and implemented by close of business Monday and you will receive an email outlining the process at that time. This might well be a "do over" auction for certain properties to be conducted as soon as Tuesday October 1. Please respond to this email if you experienced difficulties and read your emails to see when we announce a resolution.

Again, I apologize for the difficulties you might have faced and appreciate your cooperation.

Sincerely,


David J. Szymanski
Chief Deputy Treasurer, Wayne County
400 Monroe, Fifth Floor
Detroit, MI 48226
dszymans@waynecounty.com
313.224-5951

September 27, 2013
Brad Jensen:

What a mess!

September 30, 2013
David:

Wayne County is a joke. They stated they would fix the situation and do a "redo". Well, they just e-mailed everyone saying they won't. What a joke.

September 30, 2013
DJ Wallace:

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September 30, 2013
Ronald Diebel:

I am seeing properties listed as on "Dangerous Buildings List", that seems fine from the outside, and appear to be occupied and maintained. I am wondering if this as scam. Are City officials putting these houses on these lists to discourage bidders?

September 30, 2013
DetroitMichael:

You mean they seem fine from a google street view search. Do an actual drive by of the property, then you'll know why it is on the "Dangerous Buildings List."

October 1, 2013
Steve N. :

Actually, there are some nice homes on that demo list. They are few and far between, but you can find some nice houses, especially in historic districts. There was one in Indian Village that sold in the first phase of the auction.

October 9, 2013
Lavara berry:

When do they put out the listing for the sept. Auction ?

October 1, 2013
Shawn:

Hey guys!

Do u know if the October Auctions are cheaper? Meaning that we won't have to start the bidding off at the "minimum bidding price" as in the September Auction?

October 1, 2013
Jerry Paffendorf:

minimum bids in round 2 start at $500. registration is open now and runs through the 11th. bidding starts on the 8th and ends the 21st-25th.

October 1, 2013
Wendel Rainbowusagroup:

I think 2 years ago, we had Round 3 and that was more a tender type deal, They started at $700 each and $200 for a parcel of land, So you want lower than $500 for a house!

October 10, 2013
Lacee:

Does anyone know if there is an updated property list for the October auction listed yet? The list on the County website is still showing from the first auction. Thanks!

October 2, 2013
Jerry Paffendorf:

whatever you see on wdwot.com that did not sell in round 1 should be for sale in round 2, minus what if anything the county removes for x reason. so what you see here is the best guide that's publicly available right now.

October 2, 2013
Lacee:

Okay, thanks! I really do appreciate you guys...such a great help!

October 4, 2013
Jonesy:

I can't seem to get the October auction list from Real Auction. Still showing the September info. Anyone else? Or am I looking in the wrong place?
Thanks for any help.

October 5, 2013
Sean:

Sadly, now that the auction properties are officially foreclosed, tax info is gone from WDWOT. Caveat to potential buyers: Be careful assuming that low assessed value=low taxes. You might buy a house for a grand and be paying 3k in annual property taxes. You must now pay to find out this info on the Wayne county site, which I assume is the reason why it can no longer be found here?

October 7, 2013
Lavara berry:

I been trying to bid in the auction but the property's will not load , is anybody else having that problem ?

October 9, 2013
David:

Yes, this auction site is absolutely horrible.

October 9, 2013
David Rodriguez:

I will be in Detroit on Oct. 18, 19, 20 and 21. I can take exterior pictures of the house and side shots of the street of a property you are interested in bidding. Let me know if you're interested in these services. My email is cmaro84(at)hotmail.com put in the subject line "Detroit Pictures" and I'll send you more information.

October 10, 2013
Eric Walstrom:

Hi Everyone,

I know everyone is gearing up for the 2013 auction, but I have 34 houses that I purchased from last year's auction available for sale. I bought 60 houses at last years auction with the intent to renovate each and rent out. I have renovated 26 thus far, but I am looking to wholesale the remaining homes. They are all brick 3 bedroom homes located in 48224, 48235, 48227, and 48205. ALL of the homes have had their taxes reduced by half and ALL of the homes already have clear title through E-Title if needed. I am looking to sell each home for around $4,000 Quit Claim Deed per house. Please email me at eric.walstrom@gmail.com if you are interested. Thank you.

October 10, 2013
Nate Heaps:

Eric, I may be interested. You can email me more info at nateheaps@mac.com. Thanks!

October 13, 2013
David F:

What is the best method for finding current property taxes and possible current owners?

October 11, 2013
Jerry Paffendorf:

hi david, for possible current owners you can search or click on any property on wdwot.com and you'll see the owner as of 2012 according to detroit's assessor database. there's also a link on the lower right of all property pages to click through to their website to check what's listed. for a charge you can also search the wayne county records at http://www.waynecounty.com/deeds/index.htm or use their computers free at 400 monroe street in downtown detroit.

for taxes you should be able to look up what's owed with a paid search on https://is.bsasoftware.com/bsa.is/AssessingServices/ServiceAssessingSearch.aspx?i=1&appid=0&unit=155 .

October 11, 2013
lucreshia:

so pissed...I have been trying to make a deposit since 9am this morning....there has been a constant busy signal until 5.01 pm just to say its now closed,,, I swear the city should stop using outside people to do what they should do thereselves

October 11, 2013
Brandon Lee:

Lucreshia, I am registered and can bid for you. I can be reached at 248-470-7114

October 11, 2013
Felipe Rodrigues:

I purchased a property on the 2012 auction and today I received a letter saying I have to go to probate court for the property.

October 11, 2013
Billybob:

Hello everyone, I am kind of new to all of this. Will there be an auction of this sort in 2014 and beyond? Thanks, Bill

October 12, 2013
Wendel Rainbowusagroup:

Yes Biily Bob

October 14, 2013
Billybob:

Thanks Wendel!

October 14, 2013
David Rodriguez:

I will be in Detroit on Oct. 18, 19, 20 and 21. I can take exterior pictures of the house (front & sides) plus street scene of a property you are interested in bidding. Let me know if you're interested in this service. My email is david.rod(at)hotmail.com put in the subject line "Detroit Pictures" and I'll send you more information.

October 12, 2013
greg crawford:
October 12, 2013
greg crawford:

data driven detroit has some useful maps as well:
http://datadrivendetroit.org/data-mapping/interactive-tools/

October 13, 2013
David M.:

Hey all, I entered the auction for the first time this year and I would love to hear from someone who has been through it to get an idea of what I'm in for. I am looking not as an investor but as a potential owner-occupier. One thing I'm really curious about - as I have 2 or 3 homes that are front-runners but have yet to receive a bid - is whether all of the investors pour in their bids at the last minute....? Or do I have an actual shot at these properties? They are in somewhat desirable locales... Thanks

October 13, 2013
Kyle:

Hello David. Did anyone ever reply to you about your question? I'm also new to the auction this year and am looking as a potential owner-occupier. Wondering if that's even possible or if all the inhabitable properties will actually be difficult due to squatter's rights and if investors are just waiting to bid on the properties that interest me so I'll ultimately be outbid.

October 13, 2013
Wendel Rainbowusagroup:

David M , Everyone has a shot at buying, Pick carefully, site the property write down the attributes of the 3 properties, Like New windows, new roof etc , tick them off. And if you are owner occupying, Stick with that one house that needs less work, And to be honest its slow on the bidding. Our Company has a system now , Just do your due diligence , But one thing I will say is you will buy it cheap, So I don't know your budget, Its going to be better than paying rent over the next 12 months.

October 14, 2013
David M.:

Thanks for the reply. I'm still wondering if I'm going to get into an 11th-hour bidding war. Is that common?

October 14, 2013
warren buffet:

I have been bidding at Wayne county auction for over a decade. my experience is that to obtain one (I'm talking a decent property in a non rundown neighborhood) you'll need approx 10 potentials to win 1. so if you are looking for 2 you'd best have a list of 20 and have them locked and loaded with walk away amounts/limits. Yes anticipate last minute bidding frenzy (especially on desirable homes in desirable neighborhoods). Take emotion out of it and stick with sound facts and numbers, this is not a slot machine, you should not be gambling, DUE DILIGENCE is paramount. The person with the most and best information wins (winning is not necessarily winning a bid either-marinade on that for a minute)- aka A.A. (Auction Assasain)

October 19, 2013
Christopher Albaugh:

Does anyone know if there is a "dangerous building" flag on the property, if the city demolishes it is the property owner charged? Also are utility connections left on the property when they demolish?

October 13, 2013
David Rodriguez:
Detroit-photos-medium

I just listed my service to take pictures of houses that are up for bid at eBay. Check out my listing at http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200974819709

I'd love to go and take pictures for you. If you have a bulk order I can give you a discount. Send me an email at cmaro84@hotmail.com

Thanks!

October 13, 2013
Billybob:

My first year participating in this auction, does this go on every year?

October 14, 2013
Krystall Jones:

Hello all, I am new to this and wondering how or where do I begin bidding? I've become a member, but cannot see to get my bid in. Can someone please help me?!

October 14, 2013
Jerry Paffendorf:

hi krystall, registration for the auction closed last week. we track things independently here and the county and http://wayne.realforeclose.com manage the auction. the only way to bid at this point is to find a registered bidder who will agree to bid on your behalf and work out an arrangement between yourselves.

October 14, 2013
JAT:

Krystall, I am a registered bidder that represents a number of investors, if you like you can contact me.
Jeff

October 19, 2013
JAT:

Krystall, if you would like to contact me, niadenud@gmail.com
Jeff

October 19, 2013
Wilma Butler:

Jerry I need your services how do I get in touch.

October 20, 2013
Billybob:

So when you get the house you only owe what you bid on it?

October 15, 2013
Myss Angie Bee:

I am interested in three properties, one has an occupant. Am I going to have to evict that person to gain access if I am the winning bid? I have two earmarked as investment (rent/flip) and one to occupy. Thanks!

October 15, 2013
warren buffet:

can someone clarify what forms of payment the treasurer accepts for balance of winning bid payments? and a link if it is posted somewhere? Thx

October 18, 2013
warren buffet:

I have been bidding at Wayne county auction for over a decade. my experience is that to obtain one (I'm talking a decent property in a non rundown neighborhood) you'll need approx 10 potentials to win 1. so if you are looking for 2 you'd best have a list of 20 and have them locked and loaded with walk away amounts/limits. Yes anticipate last minute bidding frenzy (especially on desirable homes in desirable neighborhoods). Take emotion out of it and stick with sound facts and numbers, this is not a slot machine, you should not be gambling, DUE DILIGENCE is paramount. The person with the most and best information wins (winning is not necessarily winning a bid either-marinade on that for a minute)- aka A.A. (Auction Assasain)

October 18, 2013
hometowngyro:

Is there a pdf of the "Dangerous Buildings List"? A property on whydontweownthis is listed as "dangerous", but not listed as such on the actual auction page. Wanted to confirm. Thank you!

October 20, 2013
kelsey:

I know that the second round properties start at $500, but are we still responsible for the back taxes for the property? If so, is that money due 24 hours within the sale of the property?

October 20, 2013
Steve N. :

No, you are not responsible for back taxes.

October 25, 2013
Darin McLeskey:

Does anyone know why two properties I've been watching don't even show up on Realforeclosure anymore? They've been completely removed within the last 48 hours.

October 21, 2013
Nate Heaps:

After day 1 of bidding on properties, all I can say is the user experience on realforeclose is horrible. Anyone else feel the same?

October 21, 2013
sang oh:

Aloha, Detroiters!
Congrats on those who won the auctions and those who are still bidding, I hope that you win your home affordably. I have won the auction myself but I am not sure if I should start opening Champaign bottles.
The reason I am posting this blog is to gather people to go together and start protecting our investments. After reading some postings, I have realized that it takes time to receive the deed. Without it, it seems that there aren’t many things you can do. Please correct me if I’m wrong but it seems that the deed will be sent from 3~4 weeks to 3 months.
So, here is my situation and my proposal. Let me explain my situation first and then the proposal.
I am originally from State of Hawaii. During the 2007~2010 mischievous economic period, I was forced to make a decision to move to Las Vegas for cheaper cost of livings. Before moving to Las Vegas, I came across on the article of buying house in Las Vegas for $20K ~ $30K. Even though I did not have the money to buy, I had a dream that if I work hard, maybe I could own one to start a new life. I was lucky to find a driving job right away. I wasn’t making much but it paid our rent and our bills. Well, as life goes, the economy (… the housing market) did not wait for us. After 2+years, the low priced homes were hard to find. The sad thing is that I could not even save $2K. One day, I saw an article of $500 homes in Detroit. That is when I started to vision myself owning a house. So, here I am ready to relocate to Detroit. But, of course, I have to find answers to my financial questions. This will lead to my proposal.
In order for me to get this relocation to work is to find myself a job. Since I am ready to let go of my low income driving job, I had to figure out the funding once I am there. Being the bid winner, I have the same problems that may have for other bid winners… securing the property or even getting their property images. On top of that, the Detroit media wasn’t very supportive on the issue of crime. Honestly, I am little afraid ( …okay whole lot more…) to go by myself. So, I am proposing to find fellow out-of-state bid winner to join me. After all, we have 3 months of “can’t do much” period of waiting for the deed.
Here is what I can do:
Little bit of web designing - I will work on the website ajusada.com (means “very cheap” in Korean) to get people to signup as soon as I am done writing this.
Little bit of computing and networking – I could setup webcam or surveillance cam to houses.
Little bit of handyman – I had some work done with drywall.
Little bit of cleaning – don’t love doing it but obsessed with cleanliness.
Little bit of driving – clean DMV record for 10+ years with buses.
So, if you are up to it, add comments or visit above site. Let’s get things done~!

October 21, 2013
SMID2002:

FOR CLARITY DEEDS ARE COMING QUICKER THAN EVER 3-4 WEEKS TOPS. AND WHAT EXACTLY ARE U PROPOSING ? YOUR STORY WAS TOO LONG

October 21, 2013
Zman:

@Sang Oh. When I first began reading your post, I quickly started thinking why would you come here... when jobs are so scarce. Then, I continued to read your post and discovered that the type of jobs that you said you are willing to do (with the exception of driving) will probably help you to survive here. So, you may have a chance. With that said, the one thing that everyone who is excited about buying property in Detroit seems to be forgetting, is that jobs are scarce in Detroit. If you are not from here it is the first thing that you must factor. There are plenty of more people than their are jobs! The best way to see my point is to look at an aerial map of the City of Detroit. There are more neighborhoods than businesses or business districts. So if you come here you should be prepared to become active in creating business from nothing and advocating that the national and international corporate sector bring business to Detroit.

October 22, 2013
sang oh:

sorry for long story. just a newbie at this site. my point is to gether people from out of state (detroit) and go together to take pictures or clean up together. And for those people could not join can send money for picture taking, cleanup, etc...

October 22, 2013
sang oh:

thanks for replying. I have kept up with Detroit situation and I agree with your comment 100%. Detroit needs income and seems business should lead the way. Without jobs... hmmm...my story is getting longer.. must stop.
;-)

October 22, 2013
warren buffet:

@sang oh contact me indigomgt@gmail.com I have a great contact who can do all you need

October 22, 2013
Steve N. :

Sang Oh, congratulations on your new purchase. Email me at sneavling@gmail.com and I can also help you. I live in Detroit and can offer some advice.

October 23, 2013
rock:

Hello Sang Oh, Hope your experience becomes a great one, please contact me at sykes528@yahoo.com for any services for all your real estate needs in Detroit.

October 24, 2013
Zman:

This message is to the people who are from outside of the Detroit area and are interested in owning a home in Detroit. Please know that the one thing that is missing in Detroit's equation is Jobs. Yes there is a major push to buy homes in Detroit. There is a question the the collective within the real estate community will have to address eventually. If we woke up tomorrow and discovered that every home in Detroit was purchased and that they were ready for occupancy.... where would all the tenants work to get money? As I travel through Detroit, I am beginning to see homes that have been purchased buy real estate investor/rental property groups that have been rehabbed but are empty. Why? Because there aren't enough jobs in Detroit! Why do you think people left in the first place? My point... if you come to Detroit be prepared to create jobs from nothing and to become active in getting the the banking and corporate sector to bring real JOBS AND DEVELOPMENT TO THE CITY!

October 22, 2013
Chris Gaddis:

Preferably newcomers to Detroit will have goods to export, for example I'm a hobby breeder of mastiffs. At my property I just won in the auction, I'll be setting up an urban kennel/farm and will ship a few litters per year of baby mastiffs to families worldwide (mostly USA).

Selling nationally or internationally and buying local is how we can maximize our individual economic contributions to the city.

October 22, 2013
Chris Haag:

hi all,

can somebody please verify for me that if my deposit is $5k and my property was $1100, then i do not need to worry about paying because it will automatically be deducted from my deposit? I won a property yesterday and need to pay by 4:30 today, but my confirmation e,ail was not totally clear.

thanks

October 22, 2013
Kimberly Green:

Chris, I had the same question so I sent an email to realauction.com and this was their response.

"Good Afternoon Kimberly,

The deposit for the Winning Bidder will be forwarded to the Treasurer's Office and applied to the purchased property."

It's still not that clear but I'm crossing my fingers that they actually take the payment from my deposit.

October 22, 2013
warren buffet:

@chris this winning bidder process is clear as mud, slow communication, deed update process is nonexistent, WOW previous vendor's process was SMOOTH. I guess a learning curve is expected, but get it together realauction. The winning bidder email states your first property will be deducted from your deposit, but what if you buy 4 properties at $1k/ea, will it still be deducted. I have a feeling this is a REALLY LOOSE TERMS type of vendor, first year and all. Where is SYZMANKSKI?

October 24, 2013
Hermine Turner:

I deposited $535 (500+35 fee) - won my bid for $500 and went the next day to Treasurer office to get my receipt showing a $0 balance. So yes they did apply my deposit to the bid. All I could get from them was that I had to wait until the QCD came in the mail before I could access the property. My major disappointment is that you have to wait for the QCD before you can secure your property. Seems like with the use of technology, they should be able to give you some document that allows for you to secure and start to make the property liveable, especially with cold weather coming.

October 27, 2013
Kimberly Green:

Hermine, did the amount available on the realauction.com site indicate when your deposit was applied to your property? I won a property but the realauction website still shows my full deposit being available. Also, do you know if they will mail out receipts? I'm out of state so I can't go and pick it up.

October 28, 2013
kelsey:

after bidding and winning a property, what is the next step? how long before I can actually get into the property I bought? and can I go and secure it better?

October 22, 2013
Louis Terrio:

Legally you don't own it until you receive the deed so you could be charged with trespass although highly unlikely. It is in your best interest if the property is vacant to secure it only until you have the deed. If the property is occupied do not make contact until after you have the deed.

October 31, 2013
Bill Frank:

14400 Prairie, Update: a party has agreed to take it once the deed arrives.

October 24, 2013
Louis Terrio:

We would be interested if that deal doesn't go thru.

October 31, 2013
Petrified Forest:

So what happens now to those properties that had no bids? Are there ways they can be purchased?

October 25, 2013
citibankmanhattan:

~~The End~~

October 25, 2013
Frank Ramouni:

This post is for anyone who purchased a property in detroit and is having regrets. I am willing to take these properties off your hands for whatever you paid, I prefer commercial properties but I will also consider residential as well. Please call Frank @ 313-421-0367 thank you.

October 26, 2013
Nichole Mills:

? What happens to the properties that DO NOT sell at auction? How do I go about purchasing some of them?

October 30, 2013
Crystal:

I would also like to know the answer to this question.

November 12, 2013
Millhouse78:

Hello all, congrats to all who have won their bids and are waiting for your deeds. I purchased several properties that are all in pretty good shape. I've been able to secure most of my properties but I'm having a problem with just one. They refuse to talk and will not even identify their selves. I'm not heartless and I did see children in the home but we all have a job to do. I know what I ULTIMATELY have to do but I free to listen to others ideas. Once I have the deed can I still be denied access?

October 31, 2013
Louis Terrio:

You can still be denied access so you will have to go thru with a legal eviction.

October 31, 2013
raskf:

I've seen this question asked twice with no reply, so maybe three times is a charm. What happens to the properties that did not sell in round 2?

October 31, 2013
OlMucky:

Properties not sold in Round 2 will ultimately wind up in the Detroit Land Bank, by way of the City of Detroit Planning & Development Department.

I believe there is a second opportunity for each city to claim properties they want to keep before transfer to the Land Bank, but I'm not sure on that point.

Properties, once in the Land Bank, can be targeted for demolition / remediation, if needed, and put back up for sale.

- Alex from the LOVELAND Team

October 31, 2013
Crystal:

So if a house isn't sold during the auction and it goes to the Michigan land bank do you know who one would contact in order to make an offer on it? Or is it completely unavailable to the public once it reaches the land bank?

November 12, 2013
Jerry Paffendorf:

hot off the presses, sortable list of all detroit and wayne county tax auction buyers. click a column name to reorder, click a buyer name to see a map of purchased properties. there are 11 peeps with more than 100 properties (note: buyer names may refer to buying agents and not ultimate owners): http://whydontweownthis.com/2013/top

October 31, 2013
robertgspence:

Did anyone win an industrial/warehouse property with room to store 3-5 vehicles over the winter? A nonprofit I work for is looking for a place to park them for a few months (and willing to pay for the privilege). My phone number is 313.757.5262 if you have any leads.

October 31, 2013
Keith Gilbert:

General Question to those in owner-occupied properties: have you found affordable homeowner's & car insurance? Back in 2008 I was looking at a house in the University District neighborhood and was shocked by the price of insurance (both house and car). I only checked with a few major insurance carriers as other factors led me to not buy that house. I asked this question because a good friend of mine is looking to buy a home in the University District. Any input is appreciated.

November 7, 2013
m lamar:

For anyone who is interested; I am an out of state owner of two properies in Detroit and one in Pontiac, MI. that were won thru an auction; distressed properties they all need to be rehabbed; but due to my own personal money problems (due to Hurricane Sandy) i am not able to keep the properties and must sell asap. please email: mlamar99@yahoo.com for addresses of homes and to make offers. Thanks

November 7, 2013
ms. kay:

Can someone/anyone reply to my post....Is any non-winning bidders having issues getting reimbursed on their deposits?
After 10 days, what is the process? Thank you in advance!

November 11, 2013
Beverly Marshall:

WHATS HAPPENING WITH 17225 PONTCHARTRAIN ON DETROIT GOLF COURSE WITH SWIMMING POOL IN VACK YARD? S

November 14, 2013
Theresa Williams:

Yes you can still be denied they have possession of the property you will have to legally evict them and you should be nice because they could really damage your property out of spite. If you like ($) I can contact them on your behalf I am a licensed realtor and I have personally purchased several properties at auction. Also if you read your terms for the auction you have no rights to the property and should not communicate with the tenants until you get your deed.

November 15, 2013
Aheath:

Let us sell, flip, or rent your properties while you spend your time investing in real estate. For additional information call: PGC International Corp @ 313.879.2999

November 15, 2013
str8 towing:

If I see a property that sold in this sale with grass not cut and trash still sitting piled up they will all be getting big tickets and properties will be tore down. All you outtatown buyers better come with work gloves and steel toe boots.

November 18, 2013
Keith Gilbert:

Amen!!

November 21, 2013
Keith Gilbert:

For those who are still looking for foreclosed properties, the City of Detroit has monthly auctions and "first come sales" of tax foreclosed property: http://www.detroitmi.gov/DepartmentsandAgencies/PlanningDevelopmentDepartment/RealEstateDevelopment.aspx

November 21, 2013
Cooley High:

Hey community I am pretty excited about the site and it content. I am interested in purchasing property in Detroit. But have a few questions?

The insurance and property taxes seems high.. Does anyone have a reasonable insurance person..

I missed out on the tax sale, does any one want or know someone who wants to sell, my focus area is downtown Detroit and 7 mile NW

November 26, 2013
Wendel Rainbowusagroup:

wendel@rainbowusagroup.com Yes I can help with getting a good deal on Insurance. Email me.

December 22, 2013
Hermine Turner:

I am a year from retirement and after living in apartments and this being my 1st purchased home I am hoping that some of you more experienced can offer some advice. 2 things - (1) Where can I get homeowner's insurance via MI Basic Homeowners. Their website (www.mbpia.com) provides zero information on how to obtain insurance or what insurers you can go through. After completing a online quote for insurance, I was told when I called that the insurers that the agent I spoke with uses is not taking any new clients in Wayne County. (2) Anyone know of any neighborhood grants or loans that can be applied for remodeling. My property is in relatively decent shape but does need some minor repairs and weatherization.

December 1, 2013
lucreshia:

What happens to unsold properties and its there anyone flipping property in zip codes 48224/48225/48236!! Thx You

December 4, 2013
lucreshia:

What happens to unsold properties and its there anyone flipping property in zip codes 48224/48225/48236!! Thx You

December 4, 2013
Chris Grobbel:

lucreshia- I have properties in zip code 48224. What are you looking for? Let me know if I can help. grobbel.chris@gmail.com

January 13, 2014
lucreshia:

Where are they located... or email me @ s3rd2010@yahoo.com

January 17, 2014
DCS:

Evictions...need assistance? Give us a call...248-242-1878 or 248-212-6522.

December 16, 2013
Wendel Rainbowusagroup:

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December 22, 2013
Six Can BuildIt:

Hello. I was wondering if someone could lend a hand to help me figure out this process; I am thoroughly confused on how this works. I apologize in advance for my wordiness.

I met Mel Chin at a symposium on the Artist's Role in Society back when he was working on this project http://melchin.org/oeuvre/s-p-a-w-n-s-p-o-r-e-s-w-i-n-g and passed up a great opportunity to be part of something I believed in to stay in corporate america and live that "dream".

I have been reading about other artists/makers partnering and creating viable spaces and the sharing of collective knowledge to bring Detroit back. I am interested in purchasing a place or two if feasible and after a lot of work, creating a place to call home and something that benefits the community like a Maker space.

I'm not rich or broke or stupid or full of hot air; I am just a guy who knows a little about a lot of things, has a little bit of money and would like to be part of something that matters and I can be proud of.

I am currently located in Brooklyn so I would be an outtatown buyer, but I have steel toes, a 1953 Shopsmith, good hands and a lotta heart if someone can help me navigate this.

Thank you in advance,
six

December 24, 2013
Tricia Diaz:

Hi Six,

I am also interested in the concept you discuss here... My husband and I are both craftspeople and love the community makers "spawn" so to speak. We would love to keep tabs on where the fellow craftspeople are settling in Detroit as we also have some money to invest and we live out of state (we currently live in Washington State).

I wish I could be of more help for this site, but I just joined. Aside from the basic look at the map, apply for the auction and bid stuff, I can't offer too much insight.

Good luck!
Tricia

January 7, 2014
Carol Sharp-Allen:

Six,

My name is Carol Sharp-Allen and I am a Realtor with Century 21 Row in the Detroit area. I'm not sure I can help you with this website since I just stumbled upon it but can definitely help you find a properties here in Detroit. You can reach me on my cell
@ 313-258-4697 or email me csharpallen@century21row.com

Anyone looking for properties can also contact me, I am always happy to help!

January 22, 2014
terrell:

doe any one know how to get in touch with asset management directors?

December 26, 2013
David:

Does anyone have an attorney they would recommend for pursuing quiet title? Preferably someone who doesn't charge $300 an hour. Flat fee anyone? I remember during a WDWOT tax auction "round house", the attorney for LaMont Title came and talked and he said they charge a $1,500 flat fee. However, it appears they were bought out by First American Title. Any leads would be appreciated.

January 14, 2014
DCS:

Hello David...we pursue quiet titles and charge a flat fee. Please give us a call at 866-963-9993 or 248-242-1878. Thanks!

February 22, 2014
DCM:

David,
I will do quiet title suits for flat fee plus cost. Call me to discuss. 248-822-8170

March 3, 2014
Kelli McCullough:

Hi David! First American Title has opened an office in Detroit specializing in the underwriting of tax sale properties. A number of the employees from LaMont Title has joined this team because of their level of expertise in the tax title arena. First American is now underwriting 90% of tax sale properties without quiet title.

March 12, 2014
michael p. donovan:

David, I was the speaker at the roundhouse. I have obtained judgments of quiet title on more than 1000 tax-foreclosed properties, always at a flat rate which includes all expenses. Please feel free to call at (313) 989-1440.

March 12, 2014
Terence D Willis:

What does "Traditional Low" signify?

January 15, 2014
Sandra Yu:

Hi Terence, do you mean in the 50-year Detroit Future City (DFC) layer?

Traditional Low Density according to DFC includes Single family detached homes, traditional retail, community open space, and blue/green infrastructure.

Check out the Detroit Future City Strategic Framework http://detroitfuturecity.com/framework/ for more information. Pages 122-3 for a matrix of all of the typologies and what kinds of development types go in each, and pages 250-3 give a visual and strategies for the spectrum of traditional low and traditional medium density neighborhoods.

A traditional medium density neighborhood would have more houses and fewer open spaces; a low density neighborhood would have fewer houses and more open spaces - but still has single family detached houses as one of the primary development types.

Sorry for the delayed and complicated response!

March 26, 2014
Tim Burke:

hey team love land i have a question. your site says my property is like two thousand and something square feet is this for the house or the entire property cause i know the house is only 960 sqr, feet

February 17, 2014
Jon Zemke:

Hi Tim. I believe the square footage number you're referring to is the square footage for the lot, not the house. Hope this helps.

February 18, 2014
Tim Burke:

also the assesment value of my house is at three thousand and somthing i paid 36 thousand for this house i also put it up on e bay for 500 thousand. and i have a great photo when they filmed Detroit 187 using my house how about creating the option of having more than one photo on here per house kinda like when you go to zillow to buy or rent a house and they have a bunch of views of the houses

February 17, 2014
DCS:

2014 Property Tax Appeals...anyone still needing help appealing 2014 property taxes may still have time to enter the appeal process. Give us call! 866-963-9993 or 248-242-1878.

February 22, 2014
Afri Kaner:

Hello, I have property in foreclosure for unpaid 2011 taxes. I have just raised the money to clear the 2011 property including interest and fees. But I have been told that even if I clear the 2011 taxes that I will not take the property out of the foreclosure auction. Can this be correct? Getting different versions of information.

February 24, 2014
Jon Zemke:

If you pay 2011 taxes, you should be able to get it out of this year's auction. My advice, pay off 2011 taxes/penalties now and then play it safe and pay the 2012, 2013 taxes ASAP. You'll also save yourself a bunch of money in penalties and fees this way. People who wait until the last minute to pay their property taxes to keep it out of auction usually pay about double in property taxes for each year.

February 24, 2014
Ricky:

Does anyone know how taxes are treated if a nonprofit buys a property in the tax auction? I know nonprofits are exempt from property taxes, so does that mean that if a nonprofit buys a property from the auction that they are not required to pay the current year taxes?

February 25, 2014
DCM:

Not all non-profits are exempt from real property taxes. You need to check out specific non-profit to see if its exempt.

March 3, 2014
hazenping:

Regarding the 2014 Auction Candidates map: are the highlighted parcels based on an official list recently released by the county, or Loveland data crunching/speculation? I don't see any official spreadsheet or list available at WCT yet, maybe I'm missing something. Anyone have info?

March 17, 2014
Sandra Yu:

Hi - it is data from the County

March 26, 2014
Sandra Yu:

Loveland Team says Hi! by the way!

March 26, 2014
Sandra Yu:

Please send us an email for more info :)

March 26, 2014
Adam 48209:

I recently bought a house on the east side near Pole Town. I was wondering what is the best way to go about buying the lot behind me, and across the street through the city. Thanks for your time!

March 25, 2014
Sandra Yu:

Hey Adam - that's a good question. Things are in a lot of flux right now. The City Planning & Development Department used to own most of the public land in Detroit, but those properties, along with other public properties owned by the Michigan Land Bank are all being transferred over to the Detroit Land Bank Authority. The DLBA has been focusing on getting good staff and internal infrastructure set up, and one of its main priorities is public land consolidation and disposition. You could try contacting the DLBA, but it might be too early to get definite answers.

March 26, 2014
elainem:

Okay so this house has been empty for about 5 or 6 years. The last paid taxes were in 2010. I want this house very bad. It's not in forecloser yett and still has an owner. I don't want the house to go into auction. How can I go about getting this house NOW? I want to move in asap and fix it. Should I pay the back taxes and fix it and move in and go from there? What do I do to get the house without reaching out to the owner?

March 26, 2014
Ibcingu Too:

To Whoever Buy 12521 Wilshire -- It's a great house with great "bones". I grew up there. If I had the money, I'd buy it.

April 15, 2014

2211 Myrtle:

Pablo@lansing.com:

I believe there is a problem here. This is not correct address 2211 Myrtle is not in north corktown.

April 2, 2014
Larry Sheradon:

Hey thanks for the heads up. If you click around on the map along MLK Blvd nearby, you'll find that they all say Myrtle instead of MLK. Not sure what to make of this other than it's a historical name? Google maps also comes up in the same place when you look for 2211 Myrtle.
https://www.google.com/maps?q=2211+myrtle,+detroit+mi&hl=en&sll=42.338963,-83.081714&sspn=0.002859,0.005493&hnear=2211+Myrtle+St,+Detroit,+Michigan+48208&t=m&z=16

April 3, 2014

3704 14th St:

treasuresofdetroit:

I have been interested in purchasing this property for years. In my quest to do so I have located more than 1 person who claims to own the property. What would be the best way to determine who ACTUALLY has property rights, because at this point I am not going to trust any paperwork provided by these individuals and I am not sure if the city's records are accurate. Is there a way to request that an address be put on the auction block if it is tax delinquent?

August 30, 2013
OlMucky:

The Wayne county register of deeds and the city assessors data are the two places to go for that information. I'd start at the register of deeds.

There's not really a process for requesting to put a property up for auction. Typically the treasurer looks for properties that owe above a certain amount in back taxes. Given this property's taxes, it could be in next years auction if no action is taken.

August 31, 2013
treasuresofdetroit:

I have reviewed all the information that Wayne County and the City of Detroit have on file. Where the confusion comes in is both do not have record of a 2006 sale of the house. But the house was apparently sold in 2006. The register of deeds has no record of this change in ownership. The person who claims to have bought the house in 2006 is not indicated in the assessment data and is not on an official deed. According to Wayne County, the old owner made a payment on delinquent taxes it owed in 2012- but only a small amount. I'm not sure if this information is accurate or if this person still owns the house. The city and county do not do the best job of record keeping. When the owner made the payment the property was no longer at risk of tax foreclosure that year. While is it likely it will end up on the auction next year if no payment is made, my guess is whoever paid the taxes last time may pay the bare minimum to keep it from being foreclosed. I'm not sure what advantage the owner sees in keeping the house. They have only let it sit and fall to ruin. They have made no attempts to fix the property and the property has become a neighborhood nuisance with squatters and all others entering and exiting the property whenever they wish. If the current owner does not give up the property to someone who is willing to fix it up they will likely eventually lose it to demolition.

August 31, 2013
treasuresofdetroit:

I am curious as to why this is not on the foreclosure list for 2014 as the unpaid taxes keep increasing and last I knew it was subject to foreclosure before the new year.

April 3, 2014
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